Smooth LV.8 Nomad
Aug 2, 2021, 03:49 AM 344 read

We love of community, where's the help? (Tiers/Guides/Stats)

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Destiny Child Global community has been helpful, fun, responsive and active for a long time now.   I'm pretty new to forums and threads for looking for answers, and finding here was awesome. Besides here, Reddit, Discord or Ricemine's site TLDR: IS THERE A TIER SITE (not video / channel) FOR GLOBAL THAT'S RUNNING UTD(up-to-date)?   The reason I ask is although here, Discord and Reddit can be amazing, they are not focused content, nor should they be. The guides (read below for more on these) the art, questions and general sharing are AWESOME! Ricemine has been doing a BADASS job and I have supported them as much as I can! Lately I've noticed updates have been really slow, 4-5 days later than content release. I am in NO WAY putting them down or even complaining. They are prob a small team if not one person having to translate or work with translators, fill out, grab data and in general keep up-to-date. As someone with 2 full-time jobs and a side hustle I understand. **The point of this post is (1) Ask for any known other sites / UTD tier/guides (that are NOT videos) as I LOVE to point new players or those who don't play often to those who have taken their time and effort to make sh#t easier for all! (2) Talk about and possibly bring awareness as I believe Ricemine, Oxytocin, ToxicWayz and ALL those who put big brain effort for everyone need more love and attention (Check on your guiders)!!!!!!**   *Just a helpful tip for those F$%^ing awesome guides: I love sharing and supporting those who put effort in what they do as I believe we all need to be rewarded for this behavior and promote it as well. With the growing, changing and evolving nature of our media, -please don't hate me-, on the guides could we please get two with a little more info. I know it's more work and I'm sorry more aren't tipping and helping out. I believe that there are a need for 2 guides. 1for f2p / casual / dolphin"maybe" and another for Ignition users "whales, turtles, marlin, w/e fishy they use xD" On the f2p since EVERYONE asks the other content deals with gear. I don't believe we need a giant list rundown of everything there but maybe 1-2 choices and role generalization IE: Healers- (wep: att/crit, hp/crit)(armor: "top 3 choices")(acc: att/crit) etc etc with maybe a pic or name or top choices for each category. Possibly the same for SC's. I know this guide suggestion will prob be controversial, I'm just rifting on what I hear and see A LOT from those who ask for guides / help. I also understand there are MULTIPLE places you can go for answers, lists and guides and having it in one place is a luxury, but I thought I would ask and hopefully have this passed around to those who need to see this!   Speaking of getting this out to those who should see this. I'm not sure if this could potentially ruin / mess the game but from day 1 launch I have always wanted in-game info. What does 3k crit mean? is that 5%,80%? The same for all the other stats. I've personally tested to see if there are thresholds and meaning, but (1) I don't have time for too much research (2) you cannot calculate diminishing returns, multipliers and other factors that we the players can not see / factor. I'm sure with buffers and debuffers we have already reached saturation, 100% crit and beyond. negative armor and dodge etc etc, just for the f2p players 6star 30+ spa maxed gear etc.   I know this has been a 3,4? prong poke into theory crafting and rationalizing, I hope we can get concise, civil, informative feedback from everyone. AGAIN I am not complaining or critizing anything. I guess you could boil all this down into, Smooth would like more info (cuz of his damn physics / engineering / art brain can't stop taking in more beep boops) xD that and I could point those lost souls in a more centralized location focused on an area rather than a theme-park or FAQ / info-tainment labrythn of answers.   Thank you all (even you James =P) please help yourself 01110100 01101111 00100000 01000100 01101001 01110011 01100011 01110101 01110011 01110011 01101001 01101111 01101110 01110011 00100000 01100001 01100010 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101111 01110000 01101001 01100011 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110101 01110011 01100101 01100110 01110101 01101100 00101100 00100000 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 01100110 01110101 01101100 00101100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01101110 00100000 01100001 01110100 01110100 01100001 01100011 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01110101 01110011 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01100101 01110100 01110100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100101 01110110 01100101 01110010 01111001 01101111 01101110 01100101 00101110

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  • Gramamanamanees LV.18 Sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

    You need to work on editing yourself a bit, this far too much to read for what you're asking.

    I'm curious why you acknowledge there are places to get this information, but are somehow still asking where you can get this information?

    To answer a few of your more direct questions: Ricemine is a tier list and you've even acknowledged it as such. To expect tier lists to be updated by the day for a niche gacha game is unreasonable.

    RE: Stats and how they shake out:
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554316680529182740/850466121525886996/stats.png

    And RE: your request for info, here's a database on everything in the game:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17o4GO5kLT4FT2PRJMmcCT0mVGQrn6lASi0nz9v2BOn8/edit#gid=398079018

    All of the things you're asking for can be found pinned in the global discord and specific questions can be asked in their help channel as well.

  • dikstra LV.19 Sage Aug 2, 2021, 03:56 PM

    There are two active Destiny Child discords: Global and International. They're filled with useful guides, people willing to answer your questions as soon as possible and much more. Also the event guides you see here or on reddit are originally posted in these discords.

    Let me stress that main community info source isn't moot or reddit, it's the discords.

  • Smooth LV.8 Nomad Aug 3, 2021, 03:06 AM

    Thank you!
    I mentioned Discord several times and did not state the importance for a reason. I was hoping to convey that for new players (or casual) not myself, reading and sifting through forums |ironically like here| was a task they either didn't want to do or was too jumbled for them.
    OFC that's a "them" problem but the TLDR was just asking for another site like Ricemine (pointed out NOT discord, reddit, youtube, twitch, moot, etc) as most want a quick concise Tier list.
    Yes, learning by getting deep into the Why's is better than just being spoonfed the answer is best. Those who post more in-depth deserve credit (another post xD), I was just inquiring as to another Ricemine to point them to so as they may have a quick look. Maybe that helpful hand will lead them to the better options since their experience was a nice easy talk.

    I'm sorry this is long, I do hope some take the time to read this as well as it DOES help. Discord CAN NOT be more emphasized on the utility of "community" and being able to discuss in real time with individuals and groups! Forums, sites and video makers ALL contribute to forming said discussions as well.

    TY Dikstra and those reading.

  • Toeknee LV.23 Warrior Aug 2, 2021, 02:09 PM

    Personally I'm not in any discord channels for DC, but I know the one's who regularly update can be found over there somewhere.

    By now you'd know what the best armor weapons and accessories are, so whenever something new comes out you can compare it.

    As for this community, it has it's regulars, though at the moment it seems like we're running out of things to discuss. You on the other hand are filled with enthusiasm, you should probably narrow down the size of your post and save some of that for other posts and discussions.

  • Smooth LV.8 Nomad Aug 3, 2021, 03:28 AM

    AGREED!
    There are many who don't know of other roads or channels to visit, truth.

    As someone who has played for a time and does take the time to actively become better at anything I do, I don't rely on guides to help me out. I _choose_ to support and engage with those who take the time to teach. I personally can not go that far, due to my lack of time xD. I love talking and helping those who do turn to those guides and discussions, I believe sometimes a fresh take can engage a thought or idea passed by or not realized!

    I personally am still EXTREMELY new to forums, threads and sites much like here, reddit and the such. I have always struggled to convey my thoughts into typing as well as talking. Voice servers were a god-send when I was gaming, as I don't pay attention to chat as much and even tho I work in the computer business I type like SHHEEEET! LOL

    I do tend to get winded in my talks, SORRY! Some have mentioned I make utube vids, lol.
    I tried to stay narrowed down on the topic, putting a TLDR on the point.
    the rest was for those who don't need guides for something to chew on or entertain me on xD It prob should be multiple posts or somehow sectioned off to portray the bouncing around of ideas my brain (much crazier) can get xD.

    The usuals, regulars, veteranos, OGs and whales that help THANK YOU!
    For the time I spend around I (hopefully WE) have noticed your pleasant, friendly and insightful posts answering and helping those who come across your paths. Keep it up!

  • Toeknee LV.23 Warrior Aug 3, 2021, 07:26 AM

    Usually a cheat sheet makes it's way in here for raids and WB. They are of course theoretical cause the units sometimes tend to be changed up from the Korean version. What's obvious is which units we'll be using and what we'll do and what new cartas we might use remains a mystery until Shiftup announces it here.

    During Narritive Dungeon things are more laid back, though this time the banners offer very good units, especially Clotho.

    Before long it's good to start saving up crystals and resources for the next event banner. It doesn't hurt to get a copy or 2 of the next unit who'll be playing a vital role in the upcoming raid.

    So be calculated as to when you'll stop summoning and upgrading units during the ND in an effort to perform more efficiently next event.

  • JJamez LV.7 Nomad Aug 3, 2021, 02:46 PM

    I use to do guides for games that I enjoyed and played pretty hardcore, unfortunately I don't have the time to do all that anymore let alone play games hardcore like I use to. I liked many things you had mentioned and how positive your outlook is, its just in my experience, a lot of those nice ideas tend to stay as just nice ideas. Sorry, not trying to be a downer or speak negatively on it. I can only speak for myself and just like Toeknee stated, I don't use discord as well. Moot has been the only primary source of info as well as socially with community for me. Everyone that Ive talked with and/or that has helped me out greatly have all been great here. I'm sure there are many others who are just as great in other forums and platforms but there is just as much if not more TOXIC people as well. So just even the thought of having to see, hear or deal with people/players like that, I refrain from joining. I'm also still somewhat new to DC and still learning all the details and technical aspects. I try to help whenever I can or at least give my opinion on a different outlook from my own play experience (ie. everybody has their own likes/dislikes with the game in all aspects, whether it be the characters, the art, the story, items, gear, upgrading, leveling and much more. No one is ever going to have the exact same account and I would think it impossible anyways unless the devs clone and create AI accounts :P.) Anyways, point I'm trying to make is there will never be "The perfect guide" or "Everything of detail in one source" because everyone or every player has their own ideal "perfect guide". And often times, those different opinions come with a big ego or has too much pride that sometimes often leads to either an epeen drama debate or another pvp battleground but on forums. And as I just said and thought about those scenarios, it makes me really appreciate and am grateful to all those in Moot DC GL community. Its just been really nice in so many ways and perspectives for me how great the community is here. And just like you noted and mentioned certain big names and players, I too have thanked all of them many times over as well as the whole community. I'd like to say and see them rewarded also but thats just not realistic from my standpoint. And even though I am only 1 insignificant new player, I still say thanks and give my appreciation to everyone that plays or is apart of the community.

    BUT HEY, not trying to knock down what you had said and would like to see happen, I'm just saying from my opinion and past experiences, what you would like to have happen is a very very Difficult thing to ask for unless ofc, its you yourself thats doing it but than there would have been no need for this post to exist if so =D. But cheers to you and hoping that something comes to fruition in what you want or would like to see. I'll just be here on moot, in my little corner, babysitting all my children >.<

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