Vortain Vortain LV.15 Chief
Sep 12, 2019, 03:19 AM 488 read

ND: Onyx and Gold Cards

Can we get a dev to chime in on this?   Onyx and Gold cards are... not good. When I'm trying to get coins to get through the ND, the last thing I want to see are those. They have a ~23% chance of appearing and are NOT affected by booster units. They give 2,250 gold or 175 onyx per flip, which is very, very low.   In 70 runs, of the ~210 cards I flipped, I got 51 Gold/Onyx cards. That's 17 (of 50) runs worth of card flips. Of 2000 stamina spent, 510 stamina (= 17 runs = 51 card flips) was lost on these.   For that 510 stamina, all that's returned is: 45,000 Gold (= 20 card flips) 5,425 Onyx (= 31 card flips) 3,400 XP   To put it in perspective, farming 7-8 with 510 Stamina nets about 19 2* childs, along with gold and 13k XP during hot time. Those 19 2*s = 400 Crystals and 7,600 onyx minimum.   It's obvious that these were added a way to stunt the players progress but also make it look like a desirable thing.   One or more of the following need to happen: Reduced the chances of each 7% or lower. Increased base amount significantly (3x to 5x). Be affected by boost units.

Poll Closed 30 Voted

Select one or more that you'd like to see:

  • Remove Gold/Onyx or Significantly Reduce Rate 17
  • Significantly Increase Base Amount 5
  • Have Onyx/Gold Affected by Boosters 13

Comment 10

  • BadMelody LV.20 Professional Noob Sep 12, 2019, 05:15 AM

    I'd rather they were just removed entirely, but would be fine with them getting lower rates.

  • Vortain LV.15 Chief Sep 12, 2019, 06:35 AM

    That's my preferred outcome. I have gotten triple gold multiple times, a 1 in a 1000 chance. (Though 0 Bathory's).

  • BadMelody LV.20 Professional Noob Sep 12, 2019, 07:52 AM

    Wait, you can get bathory from the cards?

  • Vortain LV.15 Chief Sep 12, 2019, 09:10 AM

    Oh no, sorry. I just meant I've rolled 0 Bathory's/5*s on the Banner (after 24k spent). Boy how I wish you could get them via the ND outside of the main prize.

  • BadMelody LV.20 Professional Noob Sep 12, 2019, 09:17 AM

    Oh, lol. Yeah, I would spending a lot of crystals on cards if you could get her from them.

  • Otakuman706 LV.20 Insomniac Sep 12, 2019, 12:11 PM

    Not sure, but in at least some NDs prior couldn't we get the related child, as well as other premium pool 5*s, from the cards on the boss level?

    Oh and not arguing that they can drop, just not sure if I'm mixing events up...
    If early ones did this and they nixed it since, I imagine it was maybe around the time we get the stamina based NDs? I wasn't reading as much on updates then, and can see how it could be 'too cheap' to 'farm' 5*s like that.

    Just not sure if I'm mixing stuff up or misunderstanding lol

  • BadMelody LV.20 Professional Noob Sep 12, 2019, 12:35 PM

    Otakuman706  Idk if we can get the narrative child, but the reward list just says 5* summon ticket, which sounds like the regular 5* summons we randomly get as rewards.

  • Vortain LV.15 Chief Sep 13, 2019, 01:15 AM

    BadMelody  You're correct. Amazingly, I've gotten that before. It was 5* ticketm

  • nerve ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ LV.26 Nightmare Sep 12, 2019, 03:41 AM

    Good point and math to back it up. I honestly would take any of the three options in the poll.

  • Vortain LV.15 Chief Sep 12, 2019, 04:39 AM

    Same here. The Booster is honestly my least favorite, but it's better than nothing. I think the reduced rate plus being affected by booster childs is the most reasonable.