LordPalm LV.5 Lurker
Jul 20, 2019, 12:51 AM 1,270 read

Lucky boxes in the narrative is setting a scary precedent

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Global is pushing lucky boxes more and more. Keep those scummy slot machines out of gameplay and in your casino of a cash shop please.

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  • Daadddy LV.14 Insomniac Jul 20, 2019, 01:19 AM

    Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I don't have a problem with these lucky boxes at all to be honest. I mean, global gives us a ton of free stuff. It's one of the few gacha games that you can actually play F2P and still be competitive/have an enjoyable experience.
    I really think posts like these are starting to sound super entitled. No offense ofc.

  • LordPalm LV.5 Lurker Jul 20, 2019, 01:25 AM

    the other servers, Korea specifically, gives MORE free stuff all without gambling boxes being replaced with guaranteed rewards. I'll never be ok with getting shafted when the same game in another language isn't.

  • Daadddy LV.14 Insomniac Jul 20, 2019, 01:41 AM

    I've been playing KR since about a month and a half after beta and back then it wasn't the same as it is today. Global is still relatively new in comparison.
    There weren't any narrative dungeons and the dailies included "spend crystals" as a sub quest if you wanted to get the main daily reward.

    Seriously man it's f2p. If you were complaining about an rng box that you had to pay your own money to open, I would agree with you, as you should get what you pay for and not a 'chance' at what you want.
    But they are giving this to us for free so I honestly don't understand where the feeling of entitlement comes from.

  • LordPalm LV.5 Lurker Jul 20, 2019, 02:00 AM

    because narrative dungeons have, up until now, given a guaranteed copy of the featured child and this one is not. They're taking things away and I'm not ok with that. it's cool that you are, but I believe we should fight to at least keep what we already have.

    would it not bother you of the next ragna and wb stripped our free child copies for a lucky box?

  • DollLicca LV.10 Nomad Jul 20, 2019, 03:36 AM

    Both Dark Maat and Dark Buster Lisa were not guaranteed. They only gave us a dark and water ticket respectively with a chance of getting them. The box is not the best prize, but I prefer it over a ticket

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 03:56 AM

    Only the Ashtoreth one did - Liberated Maat and DB Lisa were tickets instead. It was a nice surprise to see a free Ashtoreth with the new narrative dungeon design and I thought that was the standard going forward, with Global following the JP model where the narrative dungeon prizes guarantee one child. I don't understand the way they keep flip-flopping, dammit. You think they've settled on one thing and then they change it again.

  • DollLicca LV.10 Nomad Jul 20, 2019, 04:36 AM

    Donut Girl had a narrative dungeon in JP and we only got a fire ticket to try and get her (got Hestia btw). I play both Global and JP and from what I can see they don't really follow a pattern in regards to event prizes.

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 07:11 AM

    DollLiccaย  That's even more confusing then.

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 03:20 AM

    I suppose you would be alright with them removing the guaranteed Noel child from the upcoming BlazBlue collab Narrative Dungeon then? And replacing her with a Lucky Box? It's still free, after all.

  • Vortain LV.15 Chief Jul 20, 2019, 05:36 AM

    It's F2P, sure, and it's great in a lot of ways. Much better than a lot that I've played, and there are no ads which is huge.

    But does that mean I'm not allowed to voice my discontent? When can I? When I've spent money? How much is enough?

    This game isn't allowing you to be F2P because it's nice, it's because it's a business. It's like how casinos give you a lot of free stuff and make you comfortable so you'll stay longer an spend more. At the business end, these types of games are meant to manipulate you into spending money. That's not being a conspiracy theorist, it's just how it is. I know it, and have enjoyed the game in the past despite it.

    While I agree being an arse isn't the way to go, if we don't voice discontent, then people will just leave quietly and they won't know why or how to fix it.

  • kyaaa LV.20 Rare Candy Jul 20, 2019, 10:33 AM

    this, i mean i don't really like the loss of guaranteed childs myself but KR and JP have their own set of flaws too, lower free crystal gain, lower 5* rates. lets not even talk about that time JP forced premium summon tasks to get enough dice to reach the petite mona skin in 1 week.

    the grass is always greener, right?

  • kyaaa LV.20 Rare Candy Jul 20, 2019, 10:30 AM

    err i don't get ppl that keep pushing the KR is better argument.. if its that good then play on that server? i hear the english patch is pretty good ._.

  • LordPalm LV.5 Lurker Jul 20, 2019, 10:35 AM

    I play on kr more than global. Their free Crystal gain is higher. devil rumble wins and rebirth lab dailies both give crystals. If you're paying you also get more. their monthly package gives 6k crystals on purchase and 500 a day.

  • kyaaa LV.20 Rare Candy Jul 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

    that's pretty nice, it's probably changed a lot since i've last seen it. makes me wonder if global would get an overhaul some years down the line

  • LordPalm LV.5 Lurker Jul 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

    if global wasn't so heavy into RNG box everything I probably wouldn't play KR. Crystal gain and pull rates are fine by me (focus banners could be better but they're not bad enough to really bug me) just gotta ditch these stupid boxes and it'll be the best server imo

  • kyaaa LV.20 Rare Candy Jul 20, 2019, 10:51 AM

    LordPalmย  sounds reasonable to me ^^ thanks for explaining your points more

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 12:16 PM

    LordPalmย  Yeah, all servers have their pros and cons (no 2* child farming on JP is a big oof for me) but Global does get the shit end of the stick when it comes to collabs and loot boxes. I absolutely do not want loot boxes infecting the game itself, I don't even buy Devil Passes with them in on principle.

  • CRXUQNV LV.20 Dream Chaser Jul 20, 2019, 03:03 AM

    Agree

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 02:44 AM

    I agree. It's a foolish precedent to set now when governments all around the world are getting real hot on loot boxes in general - I seriously SERIOUSLY hope we don't see this again. I don't care about Astraea, but what if they do this for Noel? Give them an inch, they take a mile. Getting a free Ashtoreth didn't ruin any economy in the game, neither would getting a free Astraea.

    Keep the lootboxes out of gameplay and rewards. Keep them in the Shop.

  • Vortain LV.15 Chief Jul 20, 2019, 03:58 AM

    Lucky Boxes are a no for me. Like, if I can't pull a single 5* in 100 tries @ 3% what makes me think I'll pull the desired unit in one try, even at 10%?

  • Ericool Lim LV.18 Sage Jul 20, 2019, 09:18 AM

    My past experience
    I had spent 4X purchased lucky box, all end up with normal 5 stars card.
    Totally no good mood in that day.

    Lesson that I learned
    what I spent not equal to what I want, not doing this any more again.

  • Xethriel LV.20 Assassin Jul 20, 2019, 10:50 AM

    I had that happen to me during the Bari ragna.... I was so sad/angry i got 4 5* tickets ๐Ÿ˜ญ

    My fault for getting so desperate for jacheongbi ๐Ÿ˜…

  • Cheesaw LV.20 Assassin Jul 20, 2019, 05:33 AM

    So, I have mixed emotions about this. I mean, I'll always appreciate a free child. That being said, at least it's a "chance" to get her for free. For Sytry I got lucky and pulled her after about 4 tries, but I know a lot of other people didn't get her at all, or spent a LOT of crystals for her. And what about the other new guy, Agamemnon? Can't get him for free either.

    I put it this way, I will NEVER buy a lucky box, but getting two of them for an event? We'll see. I'll probably be disappointed.

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 07:13 AM

    They'll be a few lucky chaps, but the rest of us will go hungry. Some of us will get Mammons/Rusalkas from the inevitable 5* ticket.

    I just don't want loot boxes as prizes, I'd prefer an elemental ticket. They're a necessary evil, fine, but keep them out of gameplay and rewards.

  • kyaaa LV.20 Rare Candy Jul 20, 2019, 10:39 AM

    yeah but, you know very well an elemental ticket will just give you mammon/rusalka/whatever garbage in this element slot. >x< at least the lootbox has some extra goodies.

    but yeah i miss the 1 guaranteed copy .-.

  • LycaDelish LV.22 RIP Jul 20, 2019, 11:01 AM

    Yeah, true.

  • Sodie Pop LV.12 Team Rocket Jul 20, 2019, 04:40 AM

    Agreed. Its better than the Lisa/Maat tickets but they could atleast be consistent...

  • MyTale LV.6 Clearly Hacking Jul 20, 2019, 01:29 AM

    hacks are way cheaper than lucky boxes

  • MAD_MAX LV.17 Sage Jul 20, 2019, 01:41 AM

    Bant

  • LordPalm LV.5 Lurker Jul 20, 2019, 02:03 AM

  • Cheesaw LV.20 Assassin Jul 20, 2019, 04:08 AM

    Ok, are we talking about something specific here? There's not a narrative dungeon going on right now, so are we talking about the last one or an upcoming event?

  • Sodie Pop LV.12 Team Rocket Jul 20, 2019, 04:23 AM

    The event that starts in two days actually! Check notices

  • Cheesaw LV.20 Assassin Jul 20, 2019, 04:46 AM

    Ah. Thanks for the heads up. I've been pretty busy lately, so I haven't been on Moot too much.

  • Jughead LV.3 Lurker Jul 23, 2019, 05:06 AM

    Lol

  • Lund LV.3 Lurker Jul 23, 2019, 11:20 AM

    H

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