CM_Heylel LV.22 GameManager
Jul 23, 2020, 10:39 AM 1,676 read

Dev Note #127: Poll Regarding Servant Balance

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Greetings Heirs   We have some very serious subjects to cover today. We are hoping to get some feedback from the community.     🔶1. Poll Regarding Infinite PvP Effect Duration Currently, Infinite PvP is designed so that battle timer stays active even when a servant is casting Combo Skill so that Heirs can quickly finish a 3 minute long Infinite PvP round. On the other hand, effect duration timer pauses to allow Heirs to maintain the effects during Combo Skill. Ultimately, frequent usage of Combo Skill was allowing effects to stay in the battle longer.   For example, it is not uncommon to see ATK Increase Effect from "Increase ATK for 20 second when the battle starts." skill to remain longer than 20 seconds into an Infinite PvP battle. This is because the effect duration timer will pause for about 6 ~ 10 seconds while Combo Skill is being casted, allowing the effect to remain in the battle longer than the original 20 seconds.   While such feature influences all the effect duration, it is particularly significant toward skills that grant effect when the battle starts because effect duration is influenced by the number of Combo Skill used within the effect duration. Also, many Heirs filed reports thinking effects remaining longer than its original duration on skill description was a bug.   Therefore, we are currently considering various improvements. Since effect duration is very crucial to the outcome of a battle in Heir of Light, we are looking for some feedback from the community that we can refer to for our future balance adjustment.   There are a total of four proposals. Feedback from the community will aid us greatly with our future adjustments.   1. Allow effect timers to stay active even during Combo Skill so that battle timer and effect timer stays consistent in Infinite PvP.   This will allow skill duration in skill description to stay consistent with Infinite PvP timer. We believe this is the most optimal proposal that allows skill duration description to be intuitive. With no unpredictable change in effect duration, it will become easier to predict effect duration. However, since current effect duration are balanced without considering the change above, we need to increase duration of important effects in general. Since 30 seconds after the battle starts can be a short amount of time, we might need to adjust it to somewhere around 1 minute, which will also bring major balance changes.   2. Decrease duration of skills that provide effects for n seconds after the battle starts.   Second proposal focuses on making realistic decisions while avoiding making huge changes. There are certain skills of certain servants that feel especially long. While the length of these effects make servants stronger on its own, it also causes difficulty in making strategic decisions because it sometimes becomes impossible to predict when the effect will wear off because of the Combo Skill issue mentioned earlier. We believe decreasing duration of some effects will balance out the current situation.   3. The issue is really not a problem.   If you believe the issue about effect's duration during Combo Skill is not a problem, please vote this option.   4. I am not interested in this vote.   We are hoping to get the most accurate result by making sure participating Heirs are fully aware of this issue. If you are not aware of this issue, or if you think you are irrelevant, please choose this option.   ⭕Poll Regarding Infinite PvP Effect Duration: https://forms.gle/4RfnQf9xUQW1Gf9e9     The change above is a balance change that can influence Potential of some servants. However, we want to let the community know we don't intend on nerfing certain servants through this change. If the change ends up nerfing a certain servant too much, we are even planning on buffing the servant.   🔶2. Light Heylel Balance The balance for Light Heylel has been done before however, it is still one of the strongest servants in the game. Many have continued to suggest that Light Heylel needs to be balanced again to create more diverse usage of Healer class servants.   Rebalance Light Heylel would not be welcomed by users who are using Light Heyel and for those who are working tirelessly in the game to reach T10. Thus, we are trying our best to delay and reject the idea of rebalancing Light Heylel. However, we do rebalance servants in cases where they must be balanced to bring more diverse usage of servants.   Rebalancing Light Heylel is a sensitive issue and we have been discussing it internally for a long time. We may not be able to make the "correct" decision regarding Light Heylel thus, we would like to hear everyone's opinion in the survey below.   ⭕Light Heylel Nerf Poll: https://forms.gle/bvrNeFge9u37X47FA     🔶3. Dark Demian Balance Similar to Light Heylel, many have suggested a balance for Dark Demian. Dark Demian has a unique passive where at the start of the battle, she would cast a barrier to her allies for 40 seconds that would prevent the removal of buffs.   However, in the actual PVP, the barrier lasts around 1 minute 30 minutes to 2 minutes 30 seconds which makes it impossible for enemies to remove any buffs.     When Dark Demian is used together with Light Heylel, it creates unstoppable team comp as listed below. > Prevent Ally buff from being removed. > Remove debuffs on allies > Prevent Allies from being debuffed > Remove buffs on enemies   We thought of many different ways to rebalance Dark Demian and believe that it would be best to reduce the duration of her passive. We want to hear everyone's opinion regarding the time reduction of Dark Demian's passive.   ⭕ Dark Demian Nerf Poll: https://forms.gle/xzfTqspk3LY3NGNL8   We will be conducting 3 different surveys regarding balances. It will be conducted to all servers and results will be calculated after counting all the votes. If you have any other suggestions regarding the survey, please feel free to leave a comment.   We are planning to implement the survey result as much as possible, however, please note that the comments we receive will be considered as well. Please note that the result of the survey and the content of the update may vary slightly. The Patch schedule may vary due to the content of changes, but we are planning for the balance to occur in August or September.   Thank you.   Flynn  

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  • MadElves LV.5 Lurker Jul 23, 2020, 08:44 PM

    The post has me confused. The iPvP effect duration has Heylel poll nerf and vice versa. But I did all poll. Light heylel is already nerfed to oblivion with Demian, Yarane, Teresia, Buff removal down to 2 nerf. Not to mention sniping.

  • gamer319757398 LV.14 Chief Jul 24, 2020, 06:41 AM

    agreed....this is ridiculous.
    whats next ?
    make us build another unit and then nerf it ?
    fill your coffers first then kick the players in the groin !?

  • CM_Heylel LV.22 GameManager Jul 25, 2020, 01:16 AM

    Poll has been fixed. Thanks for the report.

  • MA121 Hunter LV.3 Lurker Jul 23, 2020, 12:37 PM

    Maybe you just pause IPvP battle timer while Combo Skill is used? Like in all other battles. Did you consider this variant? If you pause IPvP battle timer, you can wait with servants nerf.

  • gamer319757398 LV.14 Chief Jul 24, 2020, 06:45 AM

    that will make the battles SUPER LONG....each battle could last 6 - 8 mins. that is foolish. most players will quit if that happens....as it is NOBODY wants those super long animations and are tired of watching them over and over and over and over.

  • gamer998783806 LV.2 Lurker Jul 23, 2020, 01:09 PM

    @CM_Heylel Are there something wrong LOL ???

  • gamer319757398 LV.14 Chief Jul 24, 2020, 06:42 AM

    nerfing heyel and demian now....has to be a joke lol.

    where is my calendar....need to check if its the 1st of april or what.

  • CM_Heylel LV.22 GameManager Jul 25, 2020, 01:16 AM

    Poll has been fixed. Thanks for the report.

  • dKrach LV.2 Lurker Jul 23, 2020, 09:26 PM

    please a new A Sphinx skin that is dressed ! something classy, like simone one or aria one

  • Lerdsak Bee Kijthawatchayakorn LV.8 Nomad Jul 24, 2020, 01:05 PM

    Maybe we should wait and see Dark Teresia fight against Light Heylel follow your plan before nerf her.

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